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Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2024
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WP:AS brought me here. Add the following hatnote:
{{Redirect|WP:AS|"Assume stupidity"|Wikipedia:Assume stupidity}}
which results in:
67.209.130.17 (talk) 16:34, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Not done: That essay is of marginal utility, and it's a bit weird to expect that shortcut to take you to it. Remsense ‥ 论 16:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Adding to table the fraction of articles that fall in various size ranges
[edit]The material added here <nowiki> , but twice removed, gives editors a sense of what percentile (so to speak) a given article's size falls into. To me, it helps me envision how much of a "problem" a large article's size is. It certainly doesn't hurt. EEng 01:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC) Pinging WhatamIdoing.
- Since 30% of all articles are stubs, we should be aiming to create stubs. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I fear I don't see what that has to do with the question at hand. EEng 02:18, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I take a similar lesson from the percentiles, it seems normal to assume the modal outcome is the expected outcome. The prevalence suggests the goal is <6,000 words. CMD (talk) 02:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- The only problem with that fine piece of reasoning is that, while 30% of articles are < 150 words, 70% are 150 to 6000 words. Unless I'm badly deceived, 70% > 30%. Or are we defining "stub" using some unspoken criterion different from the 150 boundary? EEng 04:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- How is a rewording of my fine piece of reasoning at all at odds with my original fine piece of reasoning? CMD (talk) 13:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- My deepest apologies. I was on my phone and somehow mixed together your post (which refers to sizes < 6000) with Hawkeye's (which seems to be talking about sizes < 150). My head on a platter will be delivered to your home within the next 3 to 5 days. EEng 21:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- A merry Christmas platter to us all! CMD (talk) 01:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- My deepest apologies. I was on my phone and somehow mixed together your post (which refers to sizes < 6000) with Hawkeye's (which seems to be talking about sizes < 150). My head on a platter will be delivered to your home within the next 3 to 5 days. EEng 21:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- How is a rewording of my fine piece of reasoning at all at odds with my original fine piece of reasoning? CMD (talk) 13:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- The only problem with that fine piece of reasoning is that, while 30% of articles are < 150 words, 70% are 150 to 6000 words. Unless I'm badly deceived, 70% > 30%. Or are we defining "stub" using some unspoken criterion different from the 150 boundary? EEng 04:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I take a similar lesson from the percentiles, it seems normal to assume the modal outcome is the expected outcome. The prevalence suggests the goal is <6,000 words. CMD (talk) 02:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I fear I don't see what that has to do with the question at hand. EEng 02:18, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Because WP is dynamic, I don't think adding the percents to the table there is helpful because it does give the wrong impression that certain article sizes are "correct"; but having a statement that "as of 2024, 30% of our articles are < 150 words..." near the table, and which can be updated annually, can give an idea where things sit at the present. --Masem (t) 13:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
List of cult films
[edit]How can this guideline be applied to lists? It does not seem to have instructions about when to split a list (which would indicate the inverse of how big a list can be). WP:SIZERULE seems focused on word count. I think this guideline had kB-size ranges before, but if it is gone, is kB size irrelevant? I'm asking all this because there is some interest in recombining list of cult films after a big overhaul last year (it has around 2,700 films from at most 20 book references). See discussion here: Talk:List of cult films § Combine pages. Erik (talk | contrib) 14:47, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
I did try the Prosesize tool, and here are the results for the T page:
- HTML document size: 180 kB
- Prose size (including all HTML code): 224 B
- References (including all HTML code): 37 kB
- Wiki text: 23 kB
- Prose size (text only): 102 B (19 words) "readable prose size"
- References (text only): 3138 B
The prose size does not seem to consider text in the table, so how can the B/kB values be used to determine an ideal list size? Erik (talk | contrib) 14:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC)