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Abdulrahman Thaher

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The person mentioned in the article is actually its own author! This constitutes a clear conflict of interest. Furthermore, the person presented as a representative is virtually unknown in the Palestinian territories. The article violates all standards. The author is attempting to create an article about himself in various versions of Wikipedia, but he does not meet the notability criteria. — Osama Eid ^(talk) 10:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It may be an autobiographyt but that is actually allowed, as long as it has been submitted to WP:AFC. Easliy passes WP:GNG though could do with some clean up. Theroadislong (talk) 10:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Punjab FC records and statistics

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Per WP:NOTSTATS. The particular content can be found at Punjab FC#Records and statistics. Wareon (talk) 09:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Club is far too young to need this WP:CONTENTFORK. Govvy (talk) 10:07, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Franziska Zimmerer

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No indication of signifance. BLP with what looks like zero WP:SECONDARY sources. Seems to be a man doing his job. scope_creep^Talk 09:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdulrahman Thaher filmography

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The article was authored by the same individual, which creates a conflict of interest. Additionally, this person is not widely recognized or well-known in the Palestinian territories. The article does not fulfill all the necessary criteria. — Osama Eid ^(talk) 09:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Christoph Glauser

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An associate professor with a rather light career output (18 works on ORCID; 5 on Scopus); doesn't meet WP:NACADEMIC and doesn't seem to have sufficient media engagement to meet WP:GNG. It also looks like an unacknowledged translation from the German article (also suggesting that we're not missing anything). Notability tagged for 2 months. Klbrain (talk) 08:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tanya Alderete

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In my WP:BEFORE, I found only one reliable independent source with significant coverage of the subject to count towards WP:BIO [1], which I added to the article. The other two sources cited in the article are not independent. I checked WP:NPROF and I think the only criteria that might apply is #1, for citations. Her Google Scholar profile [2] gives an h-index of around 30, which I suggest is borderline; I do note that the article had explicitly been undraftified with this comment respectable h-index, may meet WP:NPROF. I submit that it doesn't, and therefore than an article now is too soon. As an alternative to deletion, I would be happy for the article to be draftified again for future expansion and resubmisssion when notability is clearer. SunloungerFrog (talk) 08:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Reason I Can't Find My Love

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Non-notable drama series that likely only has an article due to its use of songs by Namie Amuro. Both the English and Japanese versions of the article are almost completely unsourced. Performing a search for Japanese-language sources only results in product listings, streaming sites and forum posts, not reliable coverage. MidnightMayhem 06:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No reliable sources to prove its notability. Warriorglance(talk to me) 06:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I found an article from Oricon stating that the first episode had a 17% nationwide viewership. Mantan Web reports that its final episode had an 18.4% nationwide viewership. It seems to have been highly viewed in Japan. lullabying (talk) 07:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Correction: they're not nationwide viewerships, but overall viewerships in the Kanto region of Japan. lullabying (talk) 07:11, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the sources found by Lullabying, which seem to provide notability for the minimum WP:BASIC criteria. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:19, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep 17% viewership in Kanto (Japan's most populous region) as noted by above editors. DCsansei (talk) 14:00, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete, not seeing much evidence of WP:SIGCOV. 2 statistics websites that give viewership numbers of shows and a brief synopsis probably won’t cut it. ApexParagon (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oricon also publishes news articles about media. Here is a link to all the articles published about the television drama. lullabying (talk) 05:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Huijiwiki

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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to support meeting WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:30, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. The sources I found were passing mentions and unreliable sources. Huijiwiki (simplified Chinese: 灰机wiki; traditional Chinese: 灰機wiki; lit. 'Gray Machine Wiki') does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (web)#Criteria. Cunard (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Most of the sources are either passing mentions or not reliable enough. The subject does not meet the notability criteria for websites. Ambrosiawater (talk) 04:29, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Huijiwiki is cited in multiple papers:

吕明芳 (2019). 功能对等视角下游戏本地化翻译策略探讨与反思 ——以游戏《文明Ⅵ》为例 [A Study and Reflection on Game Localization Translation Strategies from the Perspective of Functional Equivalence -- Taking the Game "Civilization VI" as an Example] (Thesis). Beijing Foreign Studies University. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

杨玲 (2018). 《临高启明》与当代幻想文学中的世界建构 [The World Construction of Lingao Qiming and Contemporary Fantasy Literature]. 济宁学院学报. 39 (1): 51–56. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

刘显. 科幻小说《三体》及改编作品的故事世界研究 [A Study on the Story World of the Science Fiction Novel The Three-Body Problem and its Adaptations] (Thesis). Retrieved 2025-05-01.

郭小嘉 (2022). 论《三体Ⅱ·黑暗森林》日译本的文化意象传递 [On the Transmission of Cultural Images in the Japanese Translation of The Three-Body Problem II: The Dark Forest] (Thesis). 黑龙江大学. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

王昊岚 (2023). MMORPG及其演变分析 ——以《最终幻想》系列为例 [Analysis of MMORPG and Its Evolution -- Taking the Final Fantasy Series as an Example] (Thesis). 天津大学. Retrieved 2025-05-01.

王依婷 (2021-11-19). "zh:审美认同与孙悟空视觉形象的海外流布" [Aesthetic Identity and the Overseas Spread of the Visual Image of Sun Wukong]. 中外文论2021. “跨文化视野下文艺理论批评前沿问题”研讨会暨中国中外文艺理论学会第18届年会. Guilin. pp. 135–150. doi:10.26914/c.cnkihy.2021.083048. Retrieved 2025-05-01. 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing these sources 内存溢出的猫 (talk · contribs). Do these sources merely cite Huijiwiki, or do they also discuss Huijiwiki "directly and detail" (quoting from Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline)? Cunard (talk) 01:15, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Athletics at the 1998 Commonwealth Games – Men's javelin throw

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Non-notable javelin throw event, i was unable to find any sources about it. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 17:20, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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We generally consider these event articles as valid splits from the main page (which would otherwise become way too long). If deleted this would be, I think, the only event in the history of the Commonwealth Games to not have an article. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:40, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, keep per WP:NOLYMPIC "*Significant coverage is likely to exist for events at individual Summer or Winter Olympic or Paralympic Games, e.g., Cycling at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's individual road race or Skeleton at the 2010 Winter Olympics – Women's", and this extends to most international Games and Championships as well. There is also SIGCOV in this specific instance to prove the point, e.g. "Silver lining as England team mount final push" or "Backley spurred on by upset". Lastly I'll just say that because this is a list article, per WP:NLIST sometimes lists can be kept because they're useful navigational aids without demonstrating notability. --Habst (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Habst. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

Lists that are unsourced, single-sourced, or single primary sourced, existing as an exception to WP:NLIST which states, Notability guidelines also apply to the creation of stand-alone lists and tables. Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; and other guidelines on appropriate stand-alone lists.. This sort of mirrors Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists.

Review: Any exception[s], if actually allowed by consensus (depending on the list), need to be one of three, for Information, navigation, or Development. I am not sure an unsourced or poorly sourced break-away list containing the names of living people qualifies. Consideration, of course, has to be the membership criteria.

While attempting to validate a list, policies and guidelines should probably at least be considered. Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists includes, "Citing sources": Stand-alone lists are subject to Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines for articles, including verifiability and citing sources.

Some editors may attempt to down-play the Notability guideline. The opening sentence states, "On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article." The actual opening paragraph states, Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia's concept of notability applies this basic standard to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics. Article and list topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice".

Wikipedia gauges notability and being "worthy of notice" by verifiability: All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable. Additionally, four types of information must be accompanied by an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material. Please note #2 and #3:

direct quotations,
material whose verifiability has been challenged,
material whose verifiability is likely to be challenged, and
contentious material about living and recently deceased persons.

The note on numbers 2 and 3 is because any assumption of inherited or inherent notability is a fallacy. Alright, that's not the note, but true. Anyway, an article, or list, that remains published, either by silence on the subject, or even IAR, is subject to consensus and the fact that consensus can change.

The mention that other stuff exists is usually not a good thing to bring up at AFD. A good discussion for an exemption would be "valid splits from the main page (which would otherwise become way too long)." If a supposed parent article is not sourced or barely sourced, I am not open to considering a "valid split". I have ran across several of these. Articles like List of European Athletics Championships records has sources and also have many "splits" listed as details, which might be a consideration. There should be a link to the "main" article. Articles like European Running Championships with two sources counted as one and likely not advancing notability would not be a good candidate for consideration..

Summation: To claim exemption from notability or verifiability requires silence from other editors, IAR, that is dependent on consensus, and must consider the fact that consensus can change. Any silence ends when there is a challenge, so "likely to exist" becomes moot, and is satisfied by proof in the form of references, specifically inline citations. It would be better to supply a reference and the link to the main article to keep some editor from going on a crusade. It would be sad if the "history of the Commonwealth Games" were upset. -- Otr500 (talk) 08:52, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is this AI? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:08, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I would recommend the addition of at least one reliable source to the article per WP:V. The present one is insecure.

Otr500, you need to abide by due process at AfD by providing a concise rationale that may include links to guidelines. I doubt if anyone will make time to read your input here, and the reaction by BeanieFan11 is understandable. Spartathenian (talk) 06:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added the above sources to the article, thanks. --Habst (talk) 12:29, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Habst. Spartathenian (talk) 20:10, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Recommend immediate closure as the "keep" arguments and actions are policy-compliant, and the nomination reveals a lack of experience in subjects of this type. I would close it myself but for earlier involvement. Thanks. Spartathenian (talk) 19:42, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Firstly, I do not understand the argument that this is a list article. It is an article about a single event in the athletics section of a single competition in a single year. I suppose it "lists" the distances thrown by competitors but that is not really a list so much as a demonstration that this subject only has database listing evidence. No, the piece about Backley's throw does not show that the event is independently notable. The games are notable, but the single event is a spin-off of the games article. There is no clear reason why that is necessary. Wikipedia is a tertiary source, but it is not a results database, and that is all this page is. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:26, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Years ago, it was decided to spin-off the results as otherwise the main page would get way too long. If deleted, this would be, out of the thousands of events in its history, the sole Commonwealth Games event missing an article. That would be nonsensical. If we're saying that its not encyclopedic they need to be discussed as a group, not just one, as that would leave a very awkward gap. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:07, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking only to the list classification, historically these articles have been classified by the community as lists due to the reasoning you point out; see Category:List-Class Athletics articles for hundreds of other examples. I only chose the first two newspapers.com results but there are many others about the event if you just search the names of the medalists in quotes. These javelin throws only happened once every four years and they were a very important and highly-discussed sports match, second only to the Olympics. --Habst (talk) 19:21, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs further discussion to establish if this should be treated separately from other Games articles
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Keep. The WP:NOLYMPIC position quoted above extends to other top-level championships including the Commonwealth Games. It is true that the Games as a whole have an over-arching level of notability as they are a major sporting event, but each individual competition within the Games is also notable in its own right. In practice, as BeanieFan11 rightly pointed out earlier, individual event articles are maintained as valid forks from the Games article for reasons that must include pagelength and readership convenience. Spartathenian (talk) 11:17, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NOLYMPIC suitably makes the case that the Commonwealth Games would be notable, but there are 45 disciplines at the Commonwealth games, of which 26 are core disciplines. The relevant discipline for Men's Javelin is, in fact, Athletics (a core discipline). The Athletics discipline consists of nearly 70 events, of which the Men's javelin throw is just one. A page on the Commonwealth Games in any year it is held is certainly notable. That does not mean that for every Commonwealth Games we should also presume there are many hundreds of pages of notable events for every one of the 45 disciplines. There is clearly no such presumption intended nor implied. The only thing that matters would be secondary sources telling us about the 1998 men's javelin throw, discussing the event, and explaining why the event is enduringly notable. Such coverage would need to be WP:SUSTAINED, and not just primary reports of the results of the competition itself. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:09, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sirfurboy, I understand your frustration but I think part of the reason these guidelines have worked so well is because nobody has been able to find a case disproving the rule yet, at least not for a javelin throw at the Commonwealth Games. In my search earlier I saw newspapers that do exactly what you describe about the 1998 Commonwealth javelin, I can't speak for every event but these ones at least were a big deal. Of course, another explanation is that these articles are classified as lists which can be treated differently w.r.t. notability per WP:NLIST. --Habst (talk) 19:29, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Were the guidelines suggesting that every single event spawns hundreds of pages, then the guidelines would not be working well. But the guidelines don't say that. This page is a spin-off. There is no evidence of independent notability. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:32, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per additions by Habst. I agree with the user Habst here. It meets significant relevance and notability. WP:N and WP:V HilssaMansen19 (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it is not about a small sports event respectfully as coverage is there. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 15:58, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Baghdad University shooting

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While clearly serious, this shooting involved no fatalities (fortunately), appears rooted in a personal dispute, and lacks any indication of broader significance, national/regional impact, or lasting consequences/discussion. Coverage is minimal and localized Mooonswimmer 05:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I was considering deletion when I came across this in NPP earlier. I agree that this event doesn't seem to have had lasting impact and was only reported in passing in local news sources – one of which appears to have been closely paraphrased here. – ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 05:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Only has local news coverage, there is not much impact. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 06:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Andorra

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Without broader coverage of Michelin-starred restaurants in Andorra as a group, the topic does not warrant a stand-alone list, especially with only a single entry and no reasonable expectation of more in the near future. Mooonswimmer 04:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Spain: They are reviewed together. I think it shouldn’t be deleted because there is no reason that the restaurant is any less deserving of a place in a list than any others. It is just because there are no others in the same nation, so the best list to put it in is Spain. History6042😊 (Contact me) 04:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per History6042. One item is not a list. Reywas92^Talk 05:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Spain: per History6042. I don't think an article with just one article is considered a list. Merge until more. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 06:37, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Naseem Ameer Ali

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Promo bio for a non-notable individual with no evidence of passing WP:NACADEMIC or WP:GNG. His h-index of 5 (from the Scopus page linked in the footnotes) is what might be expected from a postdoc or graduate student, not an associate professor, and signals the opposite of significantly impacted...academia, to quote the peacocking language used here. He meets none of the other NACADEMIC criteria. The sourcing (here and in a BEFORE search) does not support GNG either. It's limited to non-independent pages: his faculty profile, primary source bios ([3], [4], his own writings [5], [6] and a LinkedIn page. One source turns up a blank page and another is a random search box. The final tenuous claim of notability is an award as a lifetime member of the NZ Institute of Quantity Surveying, but this is unlikely to be a notable award since NZIQS appears non-notable, and it fails WP:V, since the only source is the aforementioned WP:USERGENERATED LinkedIn page and search queries on the NZIQS website turn up no results for life/lifetime members or for Ali's name. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A long way from passing WP:Prof and, on the basis of the thorough nomination, I don't see enough for GNG. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:18, 4 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Liberal Alliance of Independent Citizens

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Contested PROD due to being a political party. However, such organisations still have to meet WP:ORG, and there is no evidence that this one does. C 679 03:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fail organisation guidlines, not many signs of notability. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 06:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cecil Bevan

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A journeyman actor; fails WP:NACTOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete -- As far as I can tell, all of his roles were bit parts. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Did not have any major roles in any films, only minor ones per above. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 06:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Melissa Batten

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Fails WP:EVENT. Not shown to have continued coverage beyond news reports at the time of the incident and consequent investigation. A state representative later cited the case when a state gun control law was passed six years later (per this article), but this seems like a passing mention. Bridget (talk) 02:52, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Keep The event led to legislation, even if the mention of the original event was brief in context of the legislation. Between the in-depth coverage of the event and the eventual lasting effect, I would consider it notable enough for inclusion on wikipedia.
Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 03:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is sigcov in this academic article from 2015 [7] which seems pretty good and analytical about the case and its impact. ~~Weak keep~~ unless I can find more. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There also appears to be significant coverage (maybe only of the perpetrator? I can't tell, he had some notability as a creator outside of the crime. it covers the game development which due to timing i believe may intersect with the murder) in Designers & Dragons by Shannon Appelcline. So keep probably. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is also a relatively lengthy description of the circumstances surrounding the murder in a debate on gun rights from 2013 as an example of lasting coverage [8] Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 03:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also several paragraphs from the NYT in 2013. [9] PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:47, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Seattle Times and NYT articles on the gun control debate that you cite aren't significant coverage – there are only a couple paragraphs dedicated to the crime. Bridget (talk) 03:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What do you define as "significant coverage"? Per WP:SIGCOV it is "more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." I'd say several paragraphs counts, yeah. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These are both lengthy articles that briefly touch upon multiple crimes, including Batten's murder, alongside each other. They do not look to me like they "[address] the topic directly and in detail" per WP:SIGCOV. Bridget (talk) 04:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the results of the previous AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph and Melissa Batten. BOZ (talk) 05:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per above. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 06:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of cities in Missouri

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Same reason as "List of villages in Missouri". Notaoffensivename (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: For legal reasons, mergers are almost never reasons to delete due to the need to retain attributions. I don't have much of an opinion beyond that at this time. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep perfectly valid navigational list, and the merge target is the worst article of the three proposed. The "proposed merge" was not a formal merge discussion, either. SportingFlyer T·C 07:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of villages in Missouri

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Already merged with "List of Municipalities in Missouri". Notaoffensivename (talk) 02:42, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: For legal reasons, mergers are almost never reasons to delete due to the need to retain attributions. Even at that, a {{Being merged}} tag was removed from this list last year by Nythar (talk · contribs) saying no such consensus exists (in reference to the proposed merger). (For what it's worth, a similar tag was not removed from the list of cities in Missouri, which the nominator has also proposed to delete.) It would not surprise me if this nomination ends up not leading to anything, but at this time have little opinion beyond that. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep perfectly valid navigational list, and the merge target is the worst article of the three proposed. SportingFlyer T·C 07:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Habromania

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Fails WP: GNG; subject has lack of significant coverage online, with only a single article from an unknown reliability website being passable. Other sources include the game's profile in reputable sources like IGN which include no significant coverage other than a single trailer. Other sources includes the game's website (primary source), an Instagram link (removed) and a marketplace link to a soft toy associated with the game. The game does not display sufficient notability and significant coverage to warrant its article. MimirIsSmart (talk) 02:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No reason for there to be an article about a game that's three (or four) years out with little coverage. Notaoffensivename (talk) 02:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Clover

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Redirect to Wikimedian of the Year. I am not persuaded that the The Guardian source is enough to meet WP:GNG/WP:BLP1E nor be able to actually create a biography. I am unable to find anything else online to add to the sources already present in the article. The existing article isn't really a biography, but rather a brief recap of her edit history. The existing detail can be (and for the most part is) covered in the list Wikimedian of the Year. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 02:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Wikimedian of the Year, not enough coverage to establish notability, fails WP:GNG. jolielover♥talk 06:47, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JackFromWisconsin: Did you look at the other two sources in the article? The three combined make up the GNG coverage, it's not just The Guardian. One is from a magazine, the other is a newspaper. The magazine gives the coverage outside of WP:BLP1E because they wrote the article this March. While they definitely bring up the point that I was awarded Wikimedian of the Year, the piece is not substantially about that, and goes into significant detail about my editing in general. It currently meets the threshold of Wikipedia:What BLP1E is not. The author was a journalist that happened to attend a meetup I went to this January with the intention of covering it for their magazine, and we had no interactions before that.
There's significant coverage of me in all three sources. They're reliable and they're all independent. I agree that other than that I'm relatively low profile, but I have no issues with a biography if one exists. I nominated the article for deletion myself the first time around (which was two sentences for people new to the discussion and right after I won the award) when there was only the PelhamToday source. There was a bunch of !keep votes then on the basis on WP:ANYBIO. My rationale was mainly based on notability grounds in that I didn't meet GNG at the time. I personally think I do now.
By the way, I really should have been officially notified about this AfD. No one left a talk page message or even a ping. I also think that if source analysis and notability debates are the type of thing one is passionate about, there's lots of articles at List of Wikipedia people that have much weaker sourcing than this one. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm at it, everyone from the previous AfD should probably be notified. I'm obviously aware of it so no need to tell myself. Courtesy notice to Dclemens1971, Another Believer, Lajmmoore, Reywas92, Elli, Md Joni Hossain, Carrite, Hemiauchenia, Yngvadottir, Iggy pop goes the weasel, Rjjiii, Barkeep49, Ipigott, Hey man im josh, ScottishFinnishRadish, Randy Kryn, Szmenderowiecki, BennyOnTheLoose, Tuhin, Schazjmd, Let'srun, Just Step Sideways, Ahri Boy, MAL MALDIVE, Queen of Hearts, JPxG, BusterD, Sohom Datta, Nadzik, David Eppstein, Red-tailed hawk, and Balph Eubank. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 07:07, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
fix pings to @মোহাম্মদ জনি হোসেন and @Beeblebrox charlotte ^👸♥ 07:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and salt per above. One source is not enough. Just wait for more news sources to cover the subject. Ahri Boy (talk) 09:01, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, The Guardian coverage, combined with local news reports, creates an accurate portrait of a young Wikipedian who has taken to editing the encyclopedia as a service to humanity. The sources meet GNG, although there should be much more coverage if the Foundation public relations department were on task and realized that promoting the Wikimedian of the Year is a perfect opportunity to connect Wikipedia with its readers through interviews and public appearances. This would reach young and older readers who would otherwise think of Wikipedia as a public utility, like a sidewalk or the telephone (it's always there, no need to wonder where it came from or who created it). Some dismiss articles about Wikipedia as something called "navel gazing" without taking into account that the project itself is notable, present, and necessary in everyday life. The Wikimedian of the Year's recipients receive enough media to justify yearly articles, and Clover's is simply a page about the recent winner of an encyclopedically-worthy award. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This argument veers into speculation of what Wikimedia Foundation 'should' be doing; decisions should be made based on what coverage currently exists, not what should exist. There aren't multiple, independent articles on the subject. My little source review:
- The Guardian article: One small paragraph about Clover, mentions she is the youngest 'Wikimedian of the year' and 75% of her edits were on a mobile device. This source isn't completely independent since she was interviewed by the article's author, and is a small mention in the article overall.
- CanCulture: Small, independent magazine, interview with her; not independent.
- Pelham today: Local news site, article is dedicated to her.
- Wikipedia user profile: well... don't need to explain this one, it's a primary source that doesn't establish notability.
What many people think of Wikipedia is irrelevant when it comes to an AFD about notability, and from the sources, there is a clear lack of it. jolielover♥talk 10:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I personally wouldn't say the CanCulture source is an interview. It includes some quotes from me, but it's not similar to anything I've seen counted as an interview in AfDS before. Those are usually more Q&A like in nature. I agree that an AfD isn't nessecarily the best place for speculation on what the WMF should be doing, and if PR-based sources existed they wouldn't really count towards notability anyways. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The PelhamToday source is completely about me and is about 11 small paragraphs. The Guardian piece dedicates 2 of its 7 paragraphs to me and provides a bit more detail than suggested above, specifically about how I'm a younger editor and also that I used to edit on my work breaks at McDonald's. CanCulture dedicates about 46 lines to me. I also dispute that it isn't independent simply because it quotes me. I say lines rather than paragraphs but there's a lot of line breaks and I didn't want to mischaracterize what is actually there. Then there's a fourth source that covers me (an interview with BBC Techlife that was briefly mentioned in the last AfD), but as an actual interview it wouldn't count towards notability at all. I'll also mention that the PelhamToday source is technically a republished version of a ThoroldToday source (not cited in the article and not included as part of the 3 that contribute to GNG) and that the brief quotes included in the piece are the journalist quoting me from the awards ceremony (which was uploaded to YouTube). I didn't actually talk to him. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, The Story!

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Non-notable indie band. The only (possibly) non-primary source in this article is a thread on now-defunct website “AbsolutePunk”, which doesn’t seem to be archived anywhere. Since AbsolutePunk had a forum section, it’s also possible that the post was user-generated rather than official content, which would make it unreliable. (If anyone can confirm this or figure out what the post was, let me know)

Cannot find evidence of WP:SIGCOV, and seems to fail WP:NMUSIC ApexParagon (talk) 02:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete There a passing mention here calling the subject a local band. There does not appear to be sufficient evidence available to meet WP:BAND. ResonantDis_tortion 09:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Electric Avenue (band)

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Seems to be just a cover band. Sources listed in article are all local, routine coverage. After a google search, not seeing enough sources to justify WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 01:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Miguel Jaime

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Subject does not appear to have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The current sources are primary and while a BEFORE found coverage at [[10]], student newspapers generally aren't considered as being independent. Let'srun (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jake Feener

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Subject does not appear to have the needed WP:SIGCOV from reliable secondary sources to meet the WP:GNG. The current sources in the article are all primary and a search elsewhere didn't come up with anything that could be used to have the notability guidelines be met. Let'srun (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kordel Davis

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Rejected CSD A7 and contested PROD. This article appears to have issues around WP:BLP1E. Davis has received coverage related to the Penn State fraternity hazing scandal but does not appear to be independently notable. Discussion of his music career is sourced only to retailers where his music has been published. Discussion of his activist work is sourced to articles that either don't mention him; make very brief mention without significant coverage, when discussing a different topic; or articles written by Davis himself. It seems like this would best be covered with a redirect to Penn State fraternity hazing scandal. hinnk (talk) 01:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ranald Leask

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We're not Linkedin and I can't find sigcov. Jay Cubby 00:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete WP:BEFORE search finds close to no sources on him, all just brief mentions from over a decade ago. Fails WP:GNG. jolielover♥talk 06:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

American Sailing

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While American Sailing does offer training sources, this sailing program fails WP:NORG. GTrang (talk) 00:35, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - significant oorganization that sets a nationwide standard. Rochambeau1783 (talk) 02:12, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Dastan Satpayev

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Contested draftification. The only coverage of this football player I can find are trivial announcements that he'll be joining Chelsea and run-of-the-mill stories about his scoring in particular games. The Forbes article appears to be unreliable per WP:FORBESCON. Note that NFOOTY has been explicitly repealed by consensus of the community. See Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability#202203070648_Wugapodes_2 and Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)/Archive 49#Association football (soccer). voorts (talk/contributions) 00:17, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I already cited the most no. of sources and citations in Eng than other language versions, even more than the Kazakh version. Also included sourves from Kazakhstan FA and FC Kairat, please consider those. Chelsdog (talk) 05:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep International player, loads of sources on google, did you bother with a WP:BEFORE, [11], [12], [13]. Terrible nomination in my opinion. Govvy (talk) 08:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Randall (footballer)

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Played once professionally. We could redirect to 2010–11 Aldershot Town F.C. season as he is mentioned there. RossEvans19 (talk) 00:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per above to 2010–11 Aldershot Town F.C. season, I tried to have a look to see if he did anything after being release from Aldershot, but see nothing. Very similar to other AfD Mark Wright (footballer, born 1981). Couldn't see any coverage after release. Govvy (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]